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	*Be wary of people with the title 'scoundrel' as that's the level that thieves often wind up at.		*Be wary of people with the title 'scoundrel' as that's the level that thieves often wind up at.
	*Be wary of people with NPC names, or 'default white' hair as they could be wearing a disguise kit.		*Be wary of people with NPC names, or 'default white' hair as they could be wearing a disguise kit.
	*Be wary of people without a guild tag, as thieves often try to hide their identities.		*Be wary of people without a guild tag, as thieves often try to hide their identities and affiliations.

	If you think there's a thief nearby, you can leave the area or you can take extra steps to ensure that your valuables are not accessible to them. Keep moving, it's hard for them to get next to you if you don't stop and stand still. Keep your weapon equipped. Don't drink potions or cast spells, which cause your weapon to be moved to your backpack. A thief cannot steal from a hidden target, so if you have the ability to hide you can keep your items safe that way. Barring that, you can lean on the added security of a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]]. If a thief opens one of these, the trap will trigger and kill them. You can safely drop any items inside it knowing that they are generally safe from thievery with the additional annoyance that every time a thief dies to your trap, you will have to leave and go re-trap the box. That said, most thieves will not open trappable containers in a player's backpack. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.		If you think there's a thief nearby, you can leave the area or you can take extra steps to ensure that your valuables are not accessible to them. Keep moving, it's hard for them to get next to you if you don't stop and stand still. Keep your weapon equipped. Don't drink potions or cast spells, which cause your weapon to be moved to your backpack. A thief cannot steal from a hidden target, so if you have the ability to hide you can keep your items safe that way. Barring that, you can lean on the added security of a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]]. If a thief opens one of these, the trap will trigger and kill them. You can safely drop any items inside it knowing that they are generally safe from thievery with the additional annoyance that every time a thief dies to your trap, you will have to leave and go re-trap the box. That said, most thieves will not open trappable containers in a player's backpack. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.

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	The first thing you need to know is how to spot a thief:		The first thing you need to know is how to spot a thief:
	Be wary of people who are not holding a weapon or spellbook in their hands, thieves need their hands empty to steal.		*Be wary of people who are not holding a weapon or spellbook in their hands, thieves need their hands empty to steal.
	Be wary of people not participating in a fight.		*Be wary of people not participating in a fight.
	Be wary of people trying to get close to your character, thieves need to be directly next to you to steal.		*Be wary of people trying to get close to your character, thieves need to be directly next to you to steal.
	Be wary of people with the title 'scoundrel' as that's the level that thieves often wind up at.		*Be wary of people with the title 'scoundrel' as that's the level that thieves often wind up at.
	Be wary of people with NPC names, or 'default white' hair as they could be wearing a disguise kit.		*Be wary of people with NPC names, or 'default white' hair as they could be wearing a disguise kit.
	Be wary of people without a guild tag, as thieves often try to hide their identities.		*Be wary of people without a guild tag, as thieves often try to hide their identities.

	If you think there's a thief nearby, you can leave the area or you can take extra steps to ensure that your valuables are not accessible to them. Keep your weapon equipped. Don't drink potions or cast spells, which cause your weapon to be moved to your backpack. A thief cannot steal from a hidden target, so if you have the ability to hide you can keep your items safe that way. Barring that, you can lean on the added security of a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]]. If a thief opens one of these, the trap will trigger and kill them. You can safely drop any items inside it knowing that they are generally safe from thievery with the additional annoyance that every time a thief dies to your trap, you will have to leave and go re-trap the box. That said, most thieves will not open trappable containers in a player's backpack. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.		If you think there's a thief nearby, you can leave the area or you can take extra steps to ensure that your valuables are not accessible to them. Keep moving, it's hard for them to get next to you if you don't stop and stand still. Keep your weapon equipped. Don't drink potions or cast spells, which cause your weapon to be moved to your backpack. A thief cannot steal from a hidden target, so if you have the ability to hide you can keep your items safe that way. Barring that, you can lean on the added security of a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]]. If a thief opens one of these, the trap will trigger and kill them. You can safely drop any items inside it knowing that they are generally safe from thievery with the additional annoyance that every time a thief dies to your trap, you will have to leave and go re-trap the box. That said, most thieves will not open trappable containers in a player's backpack. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.

	==Disarm Thief Protection==		==Disarm Thief Protection==

	~~Honestly,~~ there is no ~~good~~ protection against ~~it happening~~. if you ~~have~~ a ~~good weapon~~ and they are ~~gunning~~ for it, they ~~will get it unless~~ disarm ~~fails~~ a ~~few times for them~~. ~~There is no delay from when you~~ are ~~disarmed~~, to ~~when~~ the thief ~~can~~ steal ~~the~~ weapon. ~~Your best protect is noticing~~ a ~~disarm thief around~~ and ~~choosing~~ to ~~put~~ your ~~good~~ weapon ~~away~~ and ~~come back with something less desirable~~. ~~They~~ will ~~leave eventually if you don~~'~~t have anything of value~~. Or you can ~~bring multiple weapons~~ to ~~keep switching when~~ you ~~get one stolen~~. ~~Always best~~ to ~~try~~ to ~~kill~~ a ~~thief~~ with a ~~mage~~. So be ~~pro-active and switch weapons out if~~ you ~~see~~ them ~~around~~. only ~~real~~ defense.		A very common misconception is that there is no protection against disarm thieves, and this is not true. Some weapons are too heavy for a thief to steal. If you are concerned about losing your weapon to a disarm thief, choose one of these weapons and they will certainly run along to find a softer target:

			*Fencing
			**Lance
			**Pitchfork
			*Swordsmanship
			**Pickaxe
			**Halberd
			**Executioner's Halberd
			**Falcon Halberd
			**Royal Halberd
			**Serrated Halberd
			**Reapers Axe
			*Macing
			**Mace
			**War Mace
			**Battle Mace
			**Massive War Mace
			**Morning Star
			**War Mallet

			If none of these unstealable weapons appeal to you, there are still other ways to protect yourself. As always, if you are in a guard zone you can call for the guards to kill the thief after they've attacked you, and they must attack you to disarm your weapon. You can drop your weapon in a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]] to give you enough time to escape - a thief cannot disarm you if you have disarmed yourself. Newbie weapons are unstealable, and a fencer or swordsman can carry a [[Poisoning\|Deadly Poisoned]] newbied dagger or skinning knife to hit the thief either before or after they've attempted to steal their weapon. You can join [[Militias]] and sanctify a weapon to make it unstealable for five days, with the added price that the weapon will be destroyed when the five days are up and that you may end up in PvP combat. If that's not to your liking, you can keep a [[Diversion\|Weapon Diversion]] in your backpack that triggers when your weapon is disarmed, making five copies of your weapon that will confuse and possibly kill thieves (and their scripts).

			Scripts are another way that you can protect yourself. A simple re-equip script, while dependent on your connection speed, will sometimes be able to re-arm your weapon before the thief's script can steal it. Some people use guard-calling scripts to automatically call the guards when they detect that a thief has done something criminal. If you truly, truly despise disarm thieves, you can carry a trapped box and when a thief damages you to disarm your weapon (and they must damage you to disarm your weapon) you can automatically activate your own trapped box. You will die, but the game will attribute that death to the thief, you can give them a murder count, and while thieves have murder counts they are not allowed to steal from other players. You will remove them from the stealing game for a day or so. Fight scripts with scripts.

			Last, but not least, is that if a criminal-flagged (gray) player is trying to get you to attack them, you probably should not attack them. After a certain duration, gray players are free to be in guard zones without having the guards called on them, but they still cannot perform new criminal acts (such as attacking you to disarm you) without penalty. A common trick is to bait ''you'' into attacking ''them'' so that they can freely steal from you without repercussions. After all, their criminal actions were only in self defense.

	==Champ Protection==		==Champ Protection==

	The scripts used by the server population are incredibly impressive. ~~An automatic way to~~ steal ~~a PS~~ in a blink of the eye. ~~The script will~~ automatically search ~~anyones~~ bag ~~beside~~ them and ~~if there is a PS, it will auto~~ steal ~~it in~~ a ~~split second~~. ~~(you will barely even see it in your bag)~~ Hiding helps, but right before the boss dies, ~~someone will detect hidden and you will be vulnerable~~. The best defense is right before the boss dies, run around like a crazy maniac. Remember, you do not need to be right beside the boss to get a PS. So stay away from any groups of people and stay on the move. Your only goal is to not be beside a thief when you get the PS or Relic. If you get one, immediately run a little further away ~~then palm it~~ on your cursor and have a friend gate you out. ~~or just run and recall away from everyone (since your already on the move, you should be gone in a second)~~		The scripts used by the server population are incredibly impressive. They are fast and they will steal items in the blink of the eye. Scripts can automatically search anyone's bag as long as the thief is next to them, detect valuable items, and automatically steal so quickly that the victim doesn't even know they've gotten a reward. Hiding helps, but right before the boss dies, people often use Reveal or Detect Hidden to soften up targets. The best defense is right before the boss dies, run around like a crazy maniac. Remember, you do not need to be right beside the boss to get a PS, but the thief needs to be directly beside you to take it from you. So stay away from any groups of people and stay on the move. Your only goal is to not be beside a thief when you get the PS or Relic. If you get one, immediately run a little further away, pick the item up on your cursor (where thieves can't steal it) and recall using the [recall command or have a friend gate you out safely.

	Lastly, if you are doing the champ with a group. Anyone that did not get something should go immediately into defensive mode. Looking to see if thieves are chasing anyone or if anyone is currently grey.		Lastly, if you are doing the champ with a group. Anyone that did not get something should go immediately into defensive mode. Looking to see if thieves are chasing anyone or if anyone is currently grey. Thieves stealing power scrolls will be forcibly dismounted.

	==Bank Protection==		==Bank Protection==

	There is nowhere safe in UO. Bankers can be killed, you can be killed in town, and thieves can disarm you right at the bank. It is ~~based on an 8 tile rule.~~ NPC's will not automatically call guards ~~if you are 8 tiles or more away while committing a criminal act~~. ~~So they~~ can attack freely or steal freely ~~at that distance~~. When doing any valuable transactions at West Britain Bank, make sure you are inside or on top of the bank to trade safely. Never go afk at a bank and remember that even West Britain Bank is not entirely safe as there have been instances when a player has taken advantage of certain game mechanics to grief the "safe" zone at WBB.		There is nowhere safe in UO. Bankers can be killed, you can be killed in town, and thieves can disarm you right at the bank. 'Automatic' guard whacks are not as 'automatic' as people often think they are. What is happening when a criminal dies instantly is that a nearby NPC (who can see through walls) has spotted the crime and summoned the guards, but if the crime occurs far enough away, NPC's will not automatically call for the guards. A thief can attack freely or steal freely in certain areas, but ''you'' can still call for the guards when they do. When doing any valuable transactions at West Britain Bank, make sure you are inside or on top of the bank to trade safely. Never go afk at a bank and remember that even West Britain Bank is not entirely safe as there have been instances when a player has taken advantage of certain game mechanics to grief the "safe" zone at WBB.

	==Pet Thief Protection==		==Pet Thief Protection==
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	Dead pets are not safe either, so never leave one around. They will be netted onto a boat and sailed away to a trap. But it is more expensive for a pet to be stolen in this way, due to the net cost.		Dead pets are not safe either, so never leave one around. They will be netted onto a boat and sailed away to a trap. But it is more expensive for a pet to be stolen in this way, due to the net cost.

			The final line of defense is the pet summoning ball, which can be charged with powder of translocation and linked to any pet. Using it will immediately pull that pet to your location, freeing it from any nefarious pet traps.

	==Thief Mindset==		==Thief Mindset==

	If you have a thief standing a few tiles away from you, odds are they are sizing you up (if you have something of value) I.E. a good weapon or a pet. They are waiting for their moment, such as when you recall. Always be aware of your surroundings. If they are lurking around you specifically, you are most likely the target.		If you have a thief standing a few tiles away from you, odds are they are sizing you up (if you have something of value) I.E. a good weapon or a pet. They are waiting for their moment, such as when you recall. Always be aware of your surroundings. If they are lurking around you specifically, you are most likely the target.

			==Fighting Back==

			Finally, remember that thieves must dedicate a certain amount of skill points to being able to steal items, and those skill points are only marginally useful in combat. They are often easy to kill because they forego defensive skills like healing or magic resist. You have more skill points dedicated to being able to kill things than they do. If you're comfortable with PvP, a thief is an easy target and killing a thief is its own reward.

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	==General Protection==		==General Protection==

	~~Other than~~ the ~~obvious stuff like always keeping~~ your weapon equipped ~~around thieves, making sure you don~~'t drink potions or ~~recall with a good~~ weapon ~~around thieves~~. ~~Your general protection for~~ your ~~everyday~~ items is to ~~simply use a trapped tinker~~ box. ~~It protects most things if you put it in~~, as most thieves ~~wont even~~ open ~~chests~~ in ~~someone~~'s ~~bag~~. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.		The first thing you need to know is how to spot a thief:
			Be wary of people who are not holding a weapon or spellbook in their hands, thieves need their hands empty to steal.
			Be wary of people not participating in a fight.
			Be wary of people trying to get close to your character, thieves need to be directly next to you to steal.
			Be wary of people with the title 'scoundrel' as that's the level that thieves often wind up at.
			Be wary of people with NPC names, or 'default white' hair as they could be wearing a disguise kit.
			Be wary of people without a guild tag, as thieves often try to hide their identities.

			If you think there's a thief nearby, you can leave the area or you can take extra steps to ensure that your valuables are not accessible to them. Keep your weapon equipped. Don't drink potions or cast spells, which cause your weapon to be moved to your backpack. A thief cannot steal from a hidden target, so if you have the ability to hide you can keep your items safe that way. Barring that, you can lean on the added security of a [[Tinker Trapped Boxes\|Tinker Trapped Box]]. If a thief opens one of these, the trap will trigger and kill them. You can safely drop any items inside it knowing that they are generally safe from thievery with the additional annoyance that every time a thief dies to your trap, you will have to leave and go re-trap the box. That said, most thieves will not open trappable containers in a player's backpack. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.

	==Disarm Thief Protection==		==Disarm Thief Protection==

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	==Thief Mindset==		==Thief Mindset==

	If you have a thief standing a few tiles away from you, odds are they are sizing you up (if you have something of value) I.E. a good weapon or a pet. They are waiting for their moment, such as when you recall. Effectively removing your weapon from your hand to cast the spell or not giving you enough time to call "All Follow Me" when they attack your pet and getting a good headstart on getting away before you can come back.		If you have a thief standing a few tiles away from you, odds are they are sizing you up (if you have something of value) I.E. a good weapon or a pet. They are waiting for their moment, such as when you recall. Always be aware of your surroundings. If they are lurking around you specifically, you are most likely the target.

	Always be aware of your surroundings~~, if~~ they are lurking around you specifically~~. You~~ are most likely ~~they~~ target.

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	There is nowhere safe in UO ~~except in your house or inside brit bank~~. Bankers can be killed, you can be killed in town and thieves can disarm you right at the bank. It is based on an 8 tile rule. NPC's will not automatically call guards if you are 8 tiles or more away while committing a criminal act. So they can attack freely or steal freely at that distance. When doing any valuable transactions at ~~the bank~~, make sure you are ~~in brit~~ bank to ~~be 100% sure you are safe~~. Never go afk at a bank ~~(edited)~~		There is nowhere safe in UO. Bankers can be killed, you can be killed in town, and thieves can disarm you right at the bank. It is based on an 8 tile rule. NPC's will not automatically call guards if you are 8 tiles or more away while committing a criminal act. So they can attack freely or steal freely at that distance. When doing any valuable transactions at West Britain Bank, make sure you are inside or on top of the bank to trade safely. Never go afk at a bank and remember that even West Britain Bank is not entirely safe as there have been instances when a player has taken advantage of certain game mechanics to grief the "safe" zone at WBB.

	==Pet Thief Protection==		==Pet Thief Protection==

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	Other than the obvious stuff like always keeping your weapon equipped around thieves, making sure you don't drink potions or recall with a good weapon around thieves. Your general protection for your everyday items is to simply use a trapped tinker box. It protects most things if you put it in, as most thieves wont even open chests in ~~someones~~ bag. ~~Below is a quick guide on how to use a trap box~~.		Other than the obvious stuff like always keeping your weapon equipped around thieves, making sure you don't drink potions or recall with a good weapon around thieves. Your general protection for your everyday items is to simply use a trapped tinker box. It protects most things if you put it in, as most thieves wont even open chests in someone's bag. Review the "How They Work" section of the [[Tinker Trapped Boxes]] article.

	==Disarm Thief Protection==		==Disarm Thief Protection==

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==General Protection==

Other than the obvious stuff like always keeping your weapon equipped around thieves, making sure you don't drink potions or recall with a good weapon around thieves. Your general protection for your everyday items is to simply use a trapped tinker box. It protects most things if you put it in, as most thieves wont even open chests in someones bag. Below is a quick guide on how to use a trap box.

==Disarm Thief Protection==

Honestly, there is no good protection against it happening. if you have a good weapon and they are gunning for it, they will get it unless disarm fails a few times for them. There is no delay from when you are disarmed, to when the thief can steal the weapon. Your best protect is noticing a disarm thief around and choosing to put your good weapon away and come back with something less desirable. They will leave eventually if you don't have anything of value. Or you can bring multiple weapons to keep switching when you get one stolen. Always best to try to kill a thief with a mage. So be pro-active and switch weapons out if you see them around. only real defense.

==Champ Protection==

The scripts used by the server population are incredibly impressive. An automatic way to steal a PS in a blink of the eye. The script will automatically search anyones bag beside them and if there is a PS, it will auto steal it in a split second. (you will barely even see it in your bag) Hiding helps, but right before the boss dies, someone will detect hidden and you will be vulnerable. The best defense is right before the boss dies, run around like a crazy maniac. Remember, you do not need to be right beside the boss to get a PS. So stay away from any groups of people and stay on the move. Your only goal is to not be beside a thief when you get the PS or Relic. If you get one, immediately run a little further away then palm it on your cursor and have a friend gate you out. or just run and recall away from everyone (since your already on the move, you should be gone in a second)

Lastly, if you are doing the champ with a group. Anyone that did not get something should go immediately into defensive mode. Looking to see if thieves are chasing anyone or if anyone is currently grey.

==Bank Protection==

There is nowhere safe in UO except in your house or inside brit bank. Bankers can be killed, you can be killed in town and thieves can disarm you right at the bank. It is based on an 8 tile rule. NPC's will not automatically call guards if you are 8 tiles or more away while committing a criminal act. So they can attack freely or steal freely at that distance. When doing any valuable transactions at the bank, make sure you are in brit bank to be 100% sure you are safe. Never go afk at a bank (edited)

==Pet Thief Protection==

Obviously, your first course would be to either kill or run from the pet thief. If you don't want to fight, then recalling out while calling "all follow me" is your best bet. In town, they will just attack and lure your pet away if afk. (it gets expensive after awhile balling them back, never worth it to afk at a bank)

Dead pets are not safe either, so never leave one around. They will be netted onto a boat and sailed away to a trap. But it is more expensive for a pet to be stolen in this way, due to the net cost.

==Thief Mindset==

If you have a thief standing a few tiles away from you, odds are they are sizing you up (if you have something of value) I.E. a good weapon or a pet. They are waiting for their moment, such as when you recall. Effectively removing your weapon from your hand to cast the spell or not giving you enough time to call "All Follow Me" when they attack your pet and getting a good headstart on getting away before you can come back.

Always be aware of your surroundings, if they are lurking around you specifically. You are most likely they target.